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Amnon's avatar

I don't have much to offer in terms of observations on gerrymandering. It is indeed a difficult problem.

Here are two observations that might be useful to inform your thinking:

- we already have a national id for citizens. It's called a us passport (or passport card). There is no need to invent a new national id. You can just use what we already have. About 40% of American citizens already have passports.

- Most democratic countries require id to vote (Australia and the UK are well known exceptions) and they seem to be doing fine. The focus and energy on the voter id vs suppression issue in the US seems quite unique. You've noted that Democrats have not provided data supporting voter suppression is significant and the only data you provided on ids is a survey from 18 years ago (which, by the way, provided almost no explanation to how the data was collected, sample size, etc etc.). If it ain't broken, why do we need to fix it?

I'm a center leaning person and I think you are missing large part of the voter-id perspective on the right side of the map - its critical if you want to get a win-win. It is not just about fraud.

- States and local authorities manage voting. That's the way things should be. Most things, including voting should be run by local authorities. Voting in new York city should work differently than they would in rural Ohio. The federal government should not be involved in voting. We already have a perfectly capable democratic system in each state and if the people of New Hampshire want to allow voting without voter if, all the power to them. The people in Texas should have no say in the matter.

- People on the right want a smaller government, not a bigger government. Solutions that involve creating new bureaucracies and spending are not attractive, because they often come with their own share of problems and challenges, making the situation worse.

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Mark Lavin's avatar

Lee, regarding the idea of a national voter id, I suspect your suggestion will be get the same reaction from Red and Blue, for pretty much the same reason: "What?!!?! National Identity Papers? Never!!!!!" It's interesting to look at which countries have national id's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_identity_card_policies_by_country).

Regarding Gerrymandering: What is the mechanism for specifying and enforcing laws to prevent Gerrymandering? As Bob Shapiro suggests, both Red and Blue will be against it following the current faction that's in power. Also, if the underlying criterion is that representative count should be proportional to vote count, I can see another solution: Make all positions in the House of Representatives state-wide ("at large"), with representatives apportioned according to vote count (and, while we're at it, remove the Electoral College).

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